The average IQ in Zhejiang Province(home to many zhuangyuans) is 118.5 ?
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ChairmanMAOhamet

03/16/2012, 07:15:15




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Evolution of High IQ’s in Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese

A commenter asks the reason for the high IQ’s of Ashkenazi Jews:


What accounts for the higher Ashkenazi IQ? Is it from living in a cold climate in eastern Europe instead of in their original sunny Mediterranean homeland? Or perhaps Slavic genes?

 

Apparently selection. When the Ashkenazim went to Europe, Talmudic Judaism unfolded around 1000 CE or so, and in order to be a Jew, a man had to read the Talmud and the Torah in full and study it all the time. That’s hard to do, and a lot of men couldn’t hack it. If you could not hack it, you left the community and converted to Christianity. The only ones that stayed were the smart ones.

After a while, they developed a preference for brains like the Chinese have. The Jewish girls would all fight each other to marry the smartest boy in the village, as he was seen as the best catch. Rabbis would have contests where they would invite all the young men around and ask them these convoluted Talmudic questions that might take a day or so to figure out. After a day, he comes back, and all the guys compete to answer the question. Whoever has the best answer (the smartest guy) gets the rabbi’s hottie daughter.

One reason I’m a Judeophile is because I like Jewish chicks. They often like me too, because I’m a brain. Another reason anti-Semitism is stupid is because Jews obviously have a better culture than we do. Jews value brains and possibly even sexually select for it via their women (their women sexually select for the brightest men). American women value near-retardation, tattoos, and monosyllabic, double digit IQ brutes. Conclusion? Jews are superior to White Gentiles.

Chinese society may be similar. I was reading a lot about China for a recent article, and I came across a couple of stunning anecdotes.

The first was about a creative writing class for adults that was held in some rural city. There were all women in the class and only a few guys. One of the men was clearly the best writer in the class. So naturally, all the single Chinese women were fighting over him!

He would go back to his room to read and write, and all the Chinese female students would make up these BS excuses to come to his room and ask him fake “student questions.” By the end of the class, one woman finally landed the guy, and she was the envy of all the others. The women were competing for the smartest man!

Another anecdote told of a village in rural Southern China. One young man was said to be the smartest guy in the whole village. I don’t know what he looked like. Anyway, every hot young Chinese chick in the village wanted him. He was the prize man of the village, and they were all fighting over him. Once again, all the women fighting over the smartest guy!

This is one reason I’m a Rice King. Asian chicks love smart guys. I remember one time I got involved with this Chinese woman. She was always saying, in awe, “You’re so smaaaart.” She was a typical Chinese, no dummy at all. I listened to her say that, and I thought, “You know, no White woman would ever say that to me, especially in that tone.”

Apparently centuries of this sort of thing has resulted in very high IQ’s for both China and Ashkenazi Jews. The Chinese IQ is 108, and the Ashk Jewish IQ is ~119. In Zhejiang Province on the Chinese coast, the average IQ is 118.5, as high as the Ashk Jewish IQ.

Total opposite of this idiot society we have now where the smarter you are, the less likely you are to get a date and the more women hate you. The dumber you are, the more women want you. We have truly evolved a retarded society nowadays.

In White society, the more tattoo-covered and monosyllabic you are, and bigger your Harley is, the more stupid White women want you. In Hispanic society, tatoos, gang membership, criminal behavior, sociopathy and a prison record gets you the hottest chicks. In Black society, rims, grills, tats, a Cadillac, gang membership, a drug dealing enterprise and a rap label contract lands you the best women.

You could excuse young women for this nonsense, because young people in general are stupid, but unfortunately, there’s evidence that this continues through life, even into middle age from what I can tell. American women and American society are quite hopeless. Tarded to the depths.

 






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He doesn't sound that smart to me.
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Grigori

03/17/2012, 15:46:33




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He misunderstood cause and effect. In any society women are after status. No one is attracted to brains per se. It's just that in some societies brains get high status. This is not due to the preference of women. Status is conferred by society as a whole. Women simply take their cue from the society they're raised in.

If you are in a society where smarts is a high status symbol, and happen to be brainy, then you lucked out. In such a society the dumb ones couldn't easily compensate except to succeed disproportionately in other ways.

On the other hand if you're in a society where masculinity and virility are status symbols, and you have brains rather than brawn, then it's up to you to compensate. Speak in a more assertive tone, smile more, buy some masculine clothes, work out. If you're in college, get a motorcycle. This should be much easier for you than dumb guys in the society where brains are valued.

Being smart and witty is never a negative if you're not missing the rest of the package. If you are really smart you would use your brains and figure this out. It's no good just wishing you lived in a society where your advantages are in greater demand.

Sounds to me like he's just a whinny nerd who's too dumb to adapt. If you don't adapt you don't deserve to survive.






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Go figures. His name is Lindsay
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03/21/2012, 06:05:19




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Supposed intelligence of Zhejiang folks is quite overrated
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-Corsair-

03/16/2012, 16:26:30




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in my experience. Chinese women aren't necessarily attracted to intelligent men, but they are attracted to Western white men. They just want higher social status, that's all, and that certainly isn't always associated with intelligence.





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Oh yeah. Why Kim Kardashian wants to date Lin and if William Hung
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Predator

03/18/2012, 15:07:53




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can get hot chicks, how can Chinese man be the at the bottom of the barrel.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/kim-kardashian-to-date-jeremy-lin-69655/

 






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Jeremy Lin is an outlier and not to be taken as representative
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-Corsair-

03/18/2012, 21:12:50




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If I were him I wouldn't touch her with a ten-inch pole, if you get what I mean.





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How can you get a higher social status when you marry a poor white?
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03/17/2012, 00:45:31




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I know for a fact that many mainland Chinese marry foreigners for the passport, they'd prefer a Chinese American over a White American if both have similar social status. American Chinese women might have got retarded with the American culture and prefer whites, but certainly not Chinese women from the mainland. I don't know whether Zhejiang people IQ is overrated or not, but indicators would suggest they are pretty smart, along with their fellow Wu people from Shanghai and Southern Jiangsu. Qian Xueshen is from Zhejiang and IM Pei is from Suzhou. Zhejiang, Shanghai, Southern Jiangsu have some of the highest GDP per capitas in China. It also saw few immigration to foreign countries during the Qing, it was always prosperous.






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In the US, poor whites have a much higher social status than rich Chinese
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-Corsair-

03/17/2012, 21:24:08




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You would know that if you lived here for long periods, Chinese men are almost the bottom of the barrel. I have never heard of a ML woman preferring an ABC over a white American. EVER. Often Chinese women, whether from ML or TW, actually divorce their husbands and marry Americans even AFTER they get green cards/citizenship. I have seen this happen numerous times so don't tell me it isn't so. And since your family is from Shanghai IIRC, you're hardly unbiased on that topic.





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Most of the Shanghainese women I know whoi married whites dumped them right
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03/18/2012, 07:18:28




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after they gained foreign residency. Many returned to Shanghai. I know of a few who stuck with their American husbands, who are obviously very rich. I know this Shanghai woman who married a Jewish publishing tycoon from New York and has an airstrip at his Key West estate in Florida. I also know of a Hong Kong girl who married a blcak model but dumped him after he failed to bring back the bacon. Chinese women are very materialistic, especially mainland women, and Shanghai particularly. Most marry for wealth, American white carries no leverage with them, its how fat your wallet that counts.






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Your claims are strongly at variance with my observations
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-Corsair-

03/18/2012, 10:48:29




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and I do believe most others here will agree with me, if they lived in the States and have any degree of experience with Chinese expats here. This phenomenon is quite widely documented on the net, look it up and stop trying to be the "anti-nmd" around here. The first step to fixing a problem is to acknowledge it exists.





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Sad to say that you are less than half correct here.
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Predator

03/18/2012, 14:49:42




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First the studies. I don't claim to read all of them, but all the those reports I read forgot to include one every important variable which is place of birth. As about 75% of all Chinese are foreign born. So the reports are comparing immigrants to native borns. Those reports would have been more accurate if all the samples are immigrants. Second, foreign born Asians tend to look for mates whose families has the same economic and social status as theirs. A foreign born Chinese woman will never marry foreign born Chinese man from a village who knows where. 

Personal observations. ABCs (men/women) prefer native borns. Foreign born Chinese women prefer mates with the same of higher economic/social status. In my school back in the late 80s. All Chinese men/women married  Chinese - immigrants to immigrants, foreign students to foreign students, and ABCs to ABCs with a few exceptions where ABCs married immigrants. In the 6 years I was there, I found few cases where Chinese married out (Chinese man/white woman and Chinese woman/non Chinese man). With interracial marriage becomes more acceptable, we are going to see more of it. However, studies that concluded that Chinese man are at the bottom of the barrel are unfounded as the rule Gold Door faces Gold Door and Wood Door faces Wood Door still sticks and sticks very well especial with Chinese women.






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My observations lead me to conclude that ABC girls prefer whites:
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-Corsair-

03/18/2012, 21:11:08




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I have never known a single younger-generation ABC woman married to a Chinese man, whether ABC or Chinese-born. Not even one. What you say may have been true years ago when there were fewer Chinese around, but these days it is quite different. Interestingly I do indeed know of ABC men marrying Chinese women, but the women were not US born. Thus, I do believe my anecdotal observations support the studies. When did you last live in the US?





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RE: I have never known a single younger-generation ABC woman married...
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Predator

03/19/2012, 05:24:23




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That says about the kind of people you hang out with. 

-- When did you last live in the US

I've been here all of my life except my childhood years. Bright good morning to you from Long Island.

 






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I'll answer your PM publicly:
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-Corsair-

03/23/2012, 19:33:33




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I am in the SF Bay Area as you probably figured out ages ago. But I understand Long Island is somewhat more affluent in general, so that might affect things. In California you almost never see Chinese guys marry whites, it's still a bit of a social taboo almost. I've been on dates with white girls before and we got stared at by EVERYONE around regardlessof their race, I am not kidding! I believe the vasy majority of white women who get involved with Chinese men do so with Chinese-born guys (often they met in China) rather than ABCs, and initially for the "exotic" factor. Possibly another reason is ABCs might get too psychologically stymied by the pervasive racism and social issues in the US. A lot of Asian guys like Kenneth Eng turn crazy and violent because of these issues.

The ABC guys who do outmarry usually marry some other Asian ethnicity (I think some polls might not distinguish this, as you know in this country Chinese/Indians/Samoans are all lumped together officially). I know that some ABCs do marry other ABCs but I do not personally know anyone who did. An old friend's younger daughter married a Korean-American, and I do know someone whose US-born daughter married a guy from HK, but neither groom was an ABC and the girl who married the HK guy wasn't particularly acculturated though she was born here (she spoke Cantonese and even some crappy Mandarin) so I always regarded her as an HKer not an ABC.

I don't want to sound like NMD but this is just my own observation, and it does appear to correlate with what various polls and surveys indicate. It seems with Asians and ABCs, men and women are on totally different wavelengths not only with each other but with Chinese-born people as well. It's unfortunate that so many of them basically try to burn all ties with their ancestral countries just to be "cool", since Americans will never accept them as fellow citizens and the racism against them is only getting worse.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pinkerton_Syndrome






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Perhaps that is so, but I know there are a great many who would agree with me
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03/19/2012, 17:41:12




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I think you are greatly exaggerating the situation
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03/19/2012, 19:36:31




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Also, most ABC girls who marry white end up divorcing later on. Or they are just really butt ugly and know that they won't find another mate if they go for an Asian. Lots of ABCs marry ABCs here - this is through my observation.

I will say that there are lots of stereotypes about Asian men in general, whether they come from Asia or are born here. But to state that the young generation of girls are marrying white is just plain false. Or you have extremely biased eyes. 

Also, I think a lot of Asian men in general should just man the fuk up already and quit whining. "OUR WOMEN ARE BEING TAKEN!" is really not an excuse. Grigori is right, adapt to your surroundings and better yourself to attract mates. Don't just blame the white guy. There is a lot of self-hate going on with many females sure, but that doesn't mean we should just take it lying down. 






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ABCs marrying each other is pretty much my observation too...
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montyp165

03/20/2012, 06:32:00




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particularly as people with similar life experiences will naturally gravitate to each other.  For the most part I've seen blacks and hispanics for example intermarry much more with whites than whites and Asians have in general.






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EQ is just as important as IQ, even in this guy's example.
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Master Debater

03/16/2012, 11:50:27




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For success in life EQ will beat IQ everytime. Of course it's best to have both a high IQ and a high EQ. I don't think billionaire Oprah Winfrey has a high IQ, but her EQ is off the chart.





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EQ for survival, IQ for success, EQ+IQ = Leaders
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sinbad

03/18/2012, 22:10:07




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Formerly Alecto. Truce Bro.....

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I know a guy who has an IQ of 180 and works in a bar as a security guard.
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03/19/2012, 09:57:37




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You have to look at the overall average not a single outlier.
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sinbad

03/21/2012, 07:25:59




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Formerly Alecto. Truce Bro.....

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eq = selling skill, iq = problem solving skill
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